Rosalie Moller

Egypt · wreck · advanced

30–50 madvancedAOWboat entry
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Rosalie Moller

The Thistlegorm's forgotten sister: a coal collier bombed two nights later, sitting upright and intact at 30-50 m off Gubal.

wreckdeeppenetrationboathistoricoffshore
Max depth30–50 m
Required leveladvanced
Entry typeboat
Visibility10 m

The dive

The Rosalie Moller was launched on 12 December 1909 as the Francis by Barclay Curle & Co. in Glasgow: a 3,963-ton collier, 108.2 m long, 15 m in the beam, good for 11 knots. She carried coal around Britain and Europe for the Booth Steamship Company through the 1910s and 1920s, was sold to Moller Line Ltd in 1931 and spent the following decade on the China coast out of Shanghai. In August 1941 the Ministry of War Transport requisitioned her and loaded her with Welsh coal for Alexandria. She was anchored at Safe Anchorage H in the Gulf of Suez, waiting for a Suez Canal transit, when the same Luftwaffe raiding activity that destroyed the Thistlegorm found her. One bomb went into No 3 hold at 0045 hrs and she sank at 0140 hrs on 8 October 1941, 48 hours after the Thistlegorm. Captain Byrne's report records two crew missing.

She lies west of Gubal Sheghir, in the Strait of Gubal, on a sandy-muddy bottom, upright and on an even keel - and this is what makes her the wreck that experienced divers rate above the Thistlegorm. She is largely undisturbed: masts still standing with the crow's nest at about 22 m, decks intact, the starboard anchor still deployed, cargo in place, and heavy coral growth over everything. The bridge can be penetrated. The damage that does exist is mostly human: the bridge has been stripped, the captain's safe forced open, and the funnel was damaged in 2001 by someone trying to remove the copper whistle.

This is a deep dive and a liveaboard-only one. Published depths vary: the main deck at 30-32 m, a 28-39 m deck range, seabed at about 50 m, mast top from 17 m, bow around 40 m, and one database quoting 25-52 m. Operators ask for Advanced Open Water plus a deep or wreck specialty, and many want 50 or more logged dives. Sources also disagree about current: one liveaboard says strong current is rare on the wreck, another describes ever-present current and wind and rates the dive hard. Both agree it needs favourable weather. Visibility is quoted at 10-40 m and water between 19 and 28 C.

Our occurrence records for this site are very thin - a handful of records, headed by sergeant majors and Indo-Pacific bottlenose dolphins - and they describe the surrounding water, not the wreck. Divers report the wreck itself as a fish magnet: enormous glassfish shoals through the bridge and around the masts, groupers, lionfish, bigeyes, and tuna and trevally patrolling outside.

  • 3,963-ton British collier, ex-Francis (1909), bombed at Safe Anchorage H on 8 October 1941, 48 hours after the Thistlegorm
  • Two crew killed; carrying Welsh coal for the war effort in North Africa
  • Upright and remarkably intact: masts standing, crow's nest at about 22 m, anchor deployed, bridge penetrable
  • Deep - main deck around 30-32 m, seabed near 50 m - and liveaboard-only
  • Huge glassfish shoals, groupers and lionfish inside; tuna and trevally outside

Please note before you go

  • Depth: the main deck is already at 30 m and the seabed is around 50 m, so this is a decompression-risk dive with a real gas plan, not a wander
  • Reported current is contested - one operator says strong current is rare, another describes ever-present current and wind - so plan for the worse case
  • Weather dependent: persistent wind at this exposed anchorage means trips get called off, and it is liveaboard-only with no bail-out to shore
  • Overhead environment: the bridge and interior are penetrable and much original deck equipment is still in place to snag on
  • Two men died aboard on 8 October 1941; this is a war grave and artefacts stay where they are
  • The wreck is being damaged by divers - the bridge stripped, the captain's safe forced, and the funnel damaged in 2001 by an attempt to remove the copper whistle

Access & rules

Mandatory requirements

Certification required

AOW

Getting there

Liveaboard only, unlike the Thistlegorm. The wreck lies west of Gubal Sheghir in the Strait of Gubal and is reached by boat or zodiac from a moored liveaboard; there is no shore, no shelter and no day-boat option. Trips are cancelled on wind and sea state.

Operator

Access to the site runs through a local operator.

Restrictions

Operators ask for Advanced Open Water plus a deep or wreck specialty, and many require 50 or more logged dives. The dive depends on favourable weather.

Rules and permits

Two crew died aboard when she was bombed on 8 October 1941, so this is a war grave. She is also one of the best-preserved wrecks in the northern Red Sea and is being degraded by divers: the bridge stripped, the captain's safe forced open, and the funnel damaged in 2001 by an attempted removal of the copper whistle. Nothing leaves the wreck.

Season

There is no published season for this wreck; what governs access is weather and wind, because the site is exposed and the dive needs favourable conditions to be run at all. Water runs 19-28 C across the year, and the wider Gubal area is choppier in winter.

Conditions

Visibility10 m
Currentmoderate
Surgenot sourced
WaterSalt water
Depth range30–50 m
Environmentwreck
Coralnot sourced
Crowdsquiet

A deep, exposed, weather-dependent wreck dive. You descend a buoy line onto a main deck at about 30 m with the seabed near 50 m, on a sandy-muddy bottom west of Gubal Sheghir. Visibility is quoted anywhere from 10 to 40 m and rated fair; water is 19-28 C by season. Sources disagree on current, so assume it is there.

On current: Depth figures differ across sources and matter here. The main deck is put at 30-32 m by one liveaboard and 28-39 m by another guide, the mast top from about 17 m, the bow around 40 m, and the seabed at about 50 m; one dive-site database quotes 25-52 m. We record 30-50 m: deck to seabed. Current is genuinely contested - one liveaboard states strong current is rare on the wreck, while a dive-site database describes 'ever present current and winds' and rates the dive hard. Take the conservative reading and plan for current. Visibility is quoted at 10-40 m and rated 'fair'; we record the conservative 10 m. Water runs 19-28 C by season.

Questions & answers

How deep is the Rosalie Moller?

Deep, and sources vary. The main deck is put at 30-32 m by one liveaboard and 28-39 m by another guide, the top of the standing mast from about 17 m, the bow around 40 m and the seabed near 50 m; one database quotes 25-52 m. We record 30-50 m, deck to seabed. This is not a wreck you dive on air without a plan.

What happened to her?

She was a 3,963-ton British collier, launched in Glasgow in 1909 as the Francis, requisitioned in 1941 and loaded with Welsh coal for Alexandria. She was anchored at Safe Anchorage H in the Gulf of Suez when a German bomb went into No 3 hold at 0045 hrs; she sank at 0140 hrs on 8 October 1941, 48 hours after the Thistlegorm. Two crew were killed.

How is she different from the Thistlegorm?

She is deeper, quieter and far more intact. The Thistlegorm is broken open and dived by hundreds of people a day; the Rosalie Moller sits upright on an even keel with her masts still standing, decks intact, the starboard anchor deployed and heavy coral growth over everything. She is also liveaboard-only, which is the main reason she stays empty.

What experience do I need?

Advanced Open Water plus a deep or wreck specialty, and many operators want 50 or more logged dives. The main deck is already at 30 m, the seabed is near 50 m, the site is exposed and weather-dependent, and one dive-site database rates the dive outright hard because of the depth combined with persistent current and wind.

Is there current?

Sources disagree, which is itself worth knowing. One liveaboard says strong current is rare on the wreck; a dive-site database describes 'ever present current and winds' and lists them as a main reason the dive is hard. Plan for the conservative case, and expect the trip to be called off if the wind is up.

How do you get there?

By liveaboard. The wreck lies west of Gubal Sheghir in the Strait of Gubal, on a sandy-muddy bottom, and is reached from a moored liveaboard by boat or zodiac. There is no day-boat option and no shore, and access depends on favourable weather.

Can you go inside?

The bridge is penetrable and much of the interior is intact, which is part of the appeal. It is also a deep overhead with a great deal of original deck equipment still in place to snag on, at a depth where problem-solving time is short. Guided penetration with the right training only.

Is it a war grave?

Yes. Two crew were killed when the bomb hit No 3 hold. She is also being actively damaged by divers: the bridge has been stripped, the captain's safe forced open, and in 2001 the funnel was damaged by an attempt to remove the copper whistle. Nothing should leave this wreck.

Life recorded at Rosalie Moller

16 species within 2.07 km · OBIS
Abudefduf vaigiensisrare · 2 records
Tursiops aduncusrare · 2 records
Coenobita scaevolarare · 1 records
Halichoeres hortulanusrare · 1 records
Ocypode saratanrare · 1 records
Parapriacanthus guentherirare · 1 records
All 16 species recorded in this area
SpeciesHow oftenRecords
Abudefduf vaigiensisrare2
Tursiops aduncusrare2
Coenobita scaevolarare1
Halichoeres hortulanusrare1
Ocypode saratanrare1
Parapriacanthus guentherirare1
Pempheris tominagairare1
Platax orbicularisrare1
Pomacanthus maculosusrare1
Pseudocheilinus evanidusrare1
Pterois milesrare1
Pygoplites diacanthusrare1
Scarus ferrugineusrare1
Synodus dermatogenysrare1
Hemigymnus melapterusrare1
Bodianus anthioidesrare1

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